tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18376180.post114616056302484544..comments2023-12-15T00:28:13.378-08:00Comments on Federalist Society -- University of Washington Chapter: Men's Law Caucus - How DARE They!?!?!Juvenalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13395140346798161677noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18376180.post-1169410017566125212007-01-21T12:06:00.000-08:002007-01-21T12:06:00.000-08:00A bunch of FedSoc members are trying to get a Men'...A bunch of FedSoc members are trying to get a Men's Law Caucus at SU Law School! Equality for all, not just the textbook defined insular minorities.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18376180.post-1146168381732285312006-04-27T13:06:00.000-07:002006-04-27T13:06:00.000-07:00I don't think it's a stretch to "make an assumptio...I don't think it's a stretch to "make an assumption" about what the complainer is upset about. I don't care if they talked to one of the guys or not. I defy you or anyone else to come up with ANY legitimate reason for someone to be so "concerned" that they complained to the SBA about it. <BR/><BR/>Anyone? Anyone? Beuhler?<BR/><BR/>And they're not complaining just to complain - they'll want something "done". It's not hard to guess what that "something" might be.<BR/><BR/>As I said, I'm fine there's a LWC. I think it's great. I know, recognize, and appreciate its purpose. And as I also said, I recognize that the LWC is not making this complaint, and is probably not offended. Good for them. They do good work. I'm glad they're there, even if I think they're somewhat less relevant in 2006 than they were in, say, 1956, for the very non-trite reason that they have by and large succeeded in their mission, as evidenced by the fact (not the cliche) that 60% of the students here are women.<BR/><BR/>But I PROMISE you that you would be outraged if a man "expressed concern" to the SBA or was offended that we have a gender specific women's group, whatever its purpose - and rightfully so. Such a complainer would be immediately labeled as a sexist woman hater - UNrightfully so - and no one would bat an eyelash. But it would be stupid and antethical to the free speech this school supposedly stands for for a man to make that complaint, just as it's equally stupid for someone to complain about the MLC.<BR/><BR/>And I take exception that wearing an MLC shirt "hurt someone else." Please. If you're "hurt" by seeing an MLC T-shirt, then the rough and tumble world of law <I>probably</I> isn't for you. Conservatives get called all kinds of nasty things at this school. I don't run to the SBA demanding that anyone feel bad about "hurting" me.<BR/><BR/>And frankly, if feminists want to get away from their stereotype as humorless, or that women are fragile creatures who need "protecting", then they should be even MORE outraged at all of this.<BR/><BR/>"Free speech. Unless I disagree with it." I have no problem belittling, ridiculing, and being outraged at that position, early and often.Orrin Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10382255042012493580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18376180.post-1146165142095163802006-04-27T12:12:00.000-07:002006-04-27T12:12:00.000-07:00Dear, FedSoc (and really, O.J.):I'm writing as a w...Dear, FedSoc (and really, O.J.):<BR/><BR/>I'm writing as a woman who also considers the T-Shirts to be "hilarious". You haven't offended me - I'll take it and dish it right back. <BR/><BR/>But you have, apparently, offended someone else. I say, "apparently" because I don't have any substantive information on the actual complaint beyond a barebones SBA announcement.<BR/><BR/>And, judging from your post, neither do *you*. <BR/><BR/>Perhaps before 1) making assumptions about what these individuals are upset about/why and 2) publically belitting those assumed concerns, you might want to do the decent thing and talk with one of them. <BR/><BR/>(Yes, yes, I'll pre-empt your knee jerk objection: "but THEY didn't talk to US first!")<BR/><BR/>Look, here's the deal: I suspect the reason why whomever is upset about this did *not* walk right up to you and tell you about it is because he/she probably guessed (rightly) that you would paint her concerns as grossly overstated/man-hating platitudes that may not have anything at all to do with the stated purpose of a women's networking organization in the legal field. <BR/><BR/>To feign shock that your prank - whether good natured or otherwise - would have garnered a reaction from those at which it was meant to poke fun is simply disingenuous. <BR/><BR/>Go ahead - make your statement. But really, when your target expresses a negative reaction to being made fun of, don't just explode online by way of throwing around cliched and trite statements like: "Is being 60% of the student body not enough for today's women?" Are we raging sexists??? Huh? HUH???<BR/><BR/>Please. Using such statements as a passive aggressive comeback when you are apparently grossly misinformed about the purpose behind a network for women in a profession that was, until *this* generation, dominated by men, really undermines your point. <BR/><BR/>But then, I happen to work in an office full of women lawyers who routinely find themselves in receipt of written correspondence addressed: "Dear Gentlemen..."<BR/><BR/>So, what do I know. <BR/><BR/>In sum: You've apparently offended someone who works in the same, very small school/legal communinty that you do, whether you like it or not. Resist the school yard temptation to just point and laugh before thinking. Be an adult, and find that person and *listen* before offering your exhaustive list of how he/she is simply too sensitive. <BR/><BR/>In other words: You did something that hurt someone else. Don't whine about it - take it like a man.nicolekovitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13829639769649975377noreply@blogger.com