tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18376180.post115708366898072082..comments2023-12-15T00:28:13.378-08:00Comments on Federalist Society -- University of Washington Chapter: Getting rid of street drunksJuvenalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13395140346798161677noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18376180.post-1158099634276327612006-09-12T15:20:00.000-07:002006-09-12T15:20:00.000-07:00The reason I mention the Seattle Democrats at the ...The reason I mention the Seattle Democrats at the start of the post is that they spearheaded the campaign for I-901. I realize it was passed by voters statewide (who are mostly democrats and in the Seattle area). Many members of the democrat, republican and green parties all do not like smoke. Likewise, many members of those parties disagree with the ban. I wouldn't necessarily call myself a republican, but I disagree with the ban. Likewise, I know many republicans that agree with the smoking ban. My point was just that the smoking ban, as with the new alcohol ban, were brainchilds of Democrats in the Seattle metro area.Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15619332184994092131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18376180.post-1157582738482465732006-09-06T15:45:00.000-07:002006-09-06T15:45:00.000-07:00Martin-Before you demonize "democrats in Seattle" ...Martin-<BR/>Before you demonize "democrats in Seattle" with the smoking ban, you should realize that it was passed by statewide initiative. Moreover it was passed by a very healthy margin in every county in the state. <BR/><BR/>So it was passed by neither Democrats nor Seattlites. It was passed by the People of all Parties, throughout the state.<BR/><BR/>I do agree with your ultimate conclusions. Almost any legislation restricting private action is a problem in my book.<BR/><BR/>Orrin-<BR/><BR/>As part of the fight against homelessness NYC has formed a department tasked with working with the homeless to help them get off the streets. Somehow I'm guessing you'd disapprove of that.<BR/><BR/>So please explain how arresting the homeless gets the homeless homes? I don't disagree that the "stick" of arrest (or committment if they are mentally ill) is part of the solution, but it must be accompanied by a real chance to help those who are punished to change thier circumstances. It seems to me that very few sane people would ever CHOOSE to live on the streets. Therefore the majority of those that are sane and live on the street either, have no other option OR believe they have no other option.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18376180.post-1157132891809319742006-09-01T10:48:00.000-07:002006-09-01T10:48:00.000-07:00Actually, what will happen is D) the liberals who ...Actually, what will happen is D) the liberals who think being homeless is the sole result of some kind of societal victimization will provide said drunks with alcohol, enabling them to continue placing their lives at risk. <BR/><BR/>The real solution is to enforce laws against vagrancy and public urination. It worked in NYC. Plus, it has the additional benefit of not threating my freedom or the freedom of downtown business owners to sell a totally legitimate product. <BR/><BR/>We coddle our vagrants and give them free alcohol in free hotel rooms. Our hippy residents with their mis-placed compassion hand out cash, allowing them to live without engaging in necessary services that more organized charity correctly requires. Then we wonder why we have a problem.<BR/><BR/>I don't know what's worse - liberals who try high handed paternalistic non-solutions that solve the wrong problem, or the hippies who think it's "discrimination" akin to Jim Crow to expect that "the homeless community" don't piss in the streets, scare off tourists, demand money (they no longer ask in Pioneer Square), make the County Courthouse less accessible, and damage the local economy.<BR/><BR/>God - how I do hate the hippies. They "solve" problems by making the problem worse, and then creating other ones besides. And then they pat themselves on the back for their compassion and "social awareness." How Mayor Nichols keeps his job is completely beyond any dimension of logic or comprehension.Orrin Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10382255042012493580noreply@blogger.com